.Andrei Pivovarov was one of the 16 prisoners freed from Russia in last week's significant detainee substitution between Moscow and the West.The prominent opponent activist, 42, was actually carried out a Warsaw-bound airplane by Russian safety and security solutions in 2021 after the pro-democracy group Open Russia, which he headed, was actually prohibited as " unwanted." He was actually punished to four years behind bars in 2022 for his deal with the team.The Moscow Times spoke to Pivovarov regarding the swap and also his plans for the future:.MT: Just how performed you feel when you were being actually needed to the airport terminal? Performed you know that it was actually a substitution?AP: By the time we got to the airport terminal, it was actually already crystal clear that we were being actually required to an exchange, yet our company failed to recognize where.I reckon I totally recognized the extremely reality of what was occurring when I was being actually taken from the nest on Sunday morning. It was the 25th [of July] I noticed that one thing remarkable was happening since I was grabbed by the scalp of the nest as well as he individually aided me carry my traits. But there were actually no specifics.You usually tend to think awful in any not clear situation. I had all type of ideas. However there was actually a minute when I was sent out-- I needed to sign for a completely dry distribution. As well as I observe a label on the previous line: Alexandra Skochilenko. And I make certain that if Sasha and also I are actually with each other, it is actually hardly a bad tale.I presumed that it will feel like in the flicks-- an arena where our team are absolved due to the tsar and also discharged in front of the RT cams. The second probability was actually a version of the thinkers' plane, which unfortunately ended up much more real in life.Yet whatever was actually hidden till the exact conclusion. When our company were actually offered Lefortovo [Jail, just before the exchange], we remained in solitude and also can certainly not get in touch with any individual.On Thursday morning they carried us a release certification with no order number, nothing. We had half an hour to pack, we took our things.There were individuals in face masks as well as uniforms along with us. If any one of us withstood and rejected to be deported, their task was actually to put our team on the airplane by any means. They clearly told us that thereafter.The initial individual I saw on the bus was actually [Ilya] Yashin. It was surely good to find him. There were familiar and unfamiliar skins after that, but individually, I was actually quite anxious whether Volodya Kara-Murza would certainly be there. He was one of the last to be introduced, which was actually a large comfort, because he has the longest sentence.Perform you know who lobbied for your incorporation in the list?How the lists were actually formed is actually a mystery to me. I haven't had the capacity to talk with all my co-workers however. From my understanding, there were actually various groups from which details was actually gathered and the last listing was actually much higher what you have actually seen. As well as it was actually minimized through Russia. When all the dreams were collected and interacted as well as sort of set, far fewer people were at some point launched.You were actually expected to be discharged in a month ...This is among the best tough traits for me. If you examine my criminal lawsuit, the duration that I had left [to provide] can certainly not be actually matched up to the relations to the others [political prisoners]I may claim that I have information from many sources that the possibility of my launch [at the end of my paragraph] was certainly not promised. That's why I ended up on the checklist. We have actually observed instances where people were jailed on their escape of the nest given that some brand new illegal instances levelled. As well as however, there were telephone calls that pointed out that in my instance, the end result may not be the best.What are your plans currently? Do you know what you will perform in the near future?I am actually currently an individual without any papers and no feeling of home. I was actually issued a Russian interior key as well as I possess two papers-- one substitutes my [foreign travel permit] and also the second substitutes my visa. As it was actually described to me, these documents enable me to stay in Germany for 15 days-- especially in Germany, certainly not in the EU. It is actually difficult to bring in severe programs. Thus at first, obviously, I would love to deal with the domestic aspects.And then-- I have been actually carrying out social and also political benefit 15-20 years. My keep in penitentiary did certainly not repel me coming from it, yet on the contrary motivated me much more. I possess some tips, as I possessed time to presume and contemplate [in prison]And also the major objective listed here, probably, is to try to chat even more with those that remained inside [Russia] To try to provide a strategy to collaborate with those who may not be our fans, however who are actually frustrated with what is actually happening. If we can give them [individuals in Russia] the possibility to reveal themselves without placing themselves at serious danger, I believe that's what an autonomous power must perform.